House of Lords (Hereditary Peers) Bill: Motion to disagree with Lords Amendment 2
331Ayes
73Noes
Carried · majority 258 · Government won243 did not vote
647 Members · Aye 331 · No 73 · DNV 243 · grey dots in centre are abstentions
Analysis
Commons
Commons
MPs voted on 4 September 2025 to reject a House of Lords amendment that would have required all Ministers sitting in the Lords to receive a salary. The motion to disagree with Lords Amendment 2 passed by 331 votes to 73. The effect is that the House of Lords (Hereditary Peers) Bill returns to the Lords without that provision, keeping the bill focused solely on removing hereditary peers from the upper chamber. The amendment had sought to address a practical problem: peers who serve as Ministers are not salaried members of Parliament in the way Commons MPs are, but instead receive a daily attendance allowance of £361. When such peers travel for ministerial duties and cannot attend the Lords, they lose that allowance, meaning they are effectively working unpaid. Supporters of the amendment argued this was an unfair condition to impose on Ministers of the Crown. The government's position was that ministerial salaries are governed by the Ministerial and Other Salaries Act 1975, and any reform to them should be made through separate legislation rather than attached to a narrowly focused constitutional bill. The vote divided sharply along party lines. All 249 Labour MPs who voted backed the government motion to reject the amendment, as did all 56 Liberal Democrat MPs and 23 Labour and Co-operative MPs. All 72 voting Conservatives opposed the motion, joined by 2 Reform UK MPs and one Independent. There were no cross-party rebels on either side. The result sits within a broader pattern from the same day: on the same bill, the Commons also voted to reject Lords Amendment 1 (336 to 77) and Lords Amendment 3 (338 to 74), indicating consistent government control of the bill's ping-pong passage.
Voting Aye meant
Support rejecting the Lords amendment on ministerial pay, keeping the bill narrowly focused on removing hereditary peers and leaving ministerial salary reform to separate legislation
Voting No meant
Support the Lords amendment requiring Lords Ministers to receive a salary, arguing it is unfair to ask peers to serve as unpaid Ministers while losing their daily allowance
Each row is one party. The stacked bar gives the within-party split of Aye / No / Absent; the columns on the right give the raw counts. The whip column shows the published party position — “Free vote” means the whip was formally removed for this division.
Party
Whip
Aye / No / Abs
Aye
No
Abs
Labour Party
Whipped Aye
249
0
112
Conservative and Unionist Party
Whipped No
0
72
44
Liberal Democrats
Whipped Aye
55
0
16
Labour and Co-operative Party
Whipped Aye
23
0
19
Independent
—
3
1
9
Scottish National Party
—
0
0
9
Reform UK
—
0
2
6
Sinn Féin
—
0
0
7
Democratic Unionist Party
—
0
0
5
Green Party of England and Wales
—
1
0
3
Plaid Cymru
—
0
0
4
Social Democratic and Labour Party
—
0
0
2
Your Party
—
0
0
2
Alliance Party of Northern Ireland
—
0
0
1
Restore Britain
—
0
0
1
Speaker
—
0
0
1
Traditional Unionist Voice
—
0
0
1
Ulster Unionist Party
—
0
0
1
Source · Hansard · UK Parliament Votes API · whip status from announced positions; “free vote” indicates the whip was formally removed
Strongly supports immediate removal of all hereditary peers as a manifesto commitment; rejects Lords amendments that would delay or soften the reform; argues the hereditary principle is archaic and indefensible.Labour · Voted aye · Read full speech (5,696 words) →
Opposes immediate removal; argues the Government breached a 1999 deal to phase out hereditary peers gradually; contends that removal is Cromwellian overreach that sets a dangerous precedent for removing political opponents.Conservative · Voted no · Read full speech (3,034 words) →
Welcomes the Bill as a first step toward greater democratic mandate; opposes all three substantive amendments (1, 2, 3) as diluting reform; argues the entire hereditary system should end immediately.Liberal Democrat · Voted aye · Read full speech (1,858 words) →
Opposes the Bill on constitutional grounds; defends the hereditary principle as part of Parliament's ancient evolution; argues gradual phase-out is more British than revolutionary change; notes most affected peers are Opposition members.Conservative · Voted no · Read full speech (1,361 words) →
Supports the core principle but urges caution on implementation; suggests delaying removal until end of Parliament to avoid disrupting committee work; questions the manifesto commitment on age 80 retirement.Labour · Voted aye · Read full speech (1,284 words) →
Strongly supports immediate removal; argues 26 years is already an excessive transition period; rejects the amendment as merely another delaying tactic with no genuine endpoint.Labour · Voted aye · Read full speech (599 words) →
Firmly supports immediate removal on principle that legislators should serve on merit, not DNA; rejects gradual phase-out and notes Britain is an anomaly in preserving hereditary legislative roles.Labour · Voted aye · Read full speech (2,091 words) →
Sources
Division dataUK Parliament Votes API
DebateHansard · Commons
Stance analysisAI analysis · Claude 4.x
LicenceOpen Parliament Licence v3.0