Speeches by Bryant.

“£127 million. The BFI, as I heard earlier, was asking for more money and a lot of people are asking the Department for more money. I fully understand that, and I have to keep saying to everybody it is a very straitened set of financial circumstances. If we were to restructure the good causes from the lottery, and there…”

“They do a multiplicity of different things on some of these sound stages—dubbing, for instance. Pinewood has the massive water tank that is in Bond movies and so on.”

“Copyright obviously works differently in all the different sectors that are covered by the creative industries, but you are absolutely right. Since Queen Anne in 1710 and then Dickens, we have had a very strong understanding of copyright in the UK. It is slightly different from the French understanding under the Napole…”

“Our aim is not to achieve that. There are several parts to the consultation, as you know. There is the text and data mining exception that everybody focuses on, and then opt-in, out-out, the rights reservation issue and the transparency issue. Then there is the other issue, which I think Dr Pavis gave evidence to you a…”

“Well, one possibility is we end up doing nothing but, as I said, that is not an optimal solution. We are trying to incentivise and engender a technical solution. I am not so sure that it is as impossible as some are suggesting. I went to the Daily Mail group last week and a lot of British newspaper houses have signed u…”

“It won’t just be us. It will be us working with everybody else. I suspect that this will be an ongoing process of debate and consultation.”

“No, I don’t think so, honestly. As you know, I am in two Departments, and I am meeting a lot of people on this subject. Feryal Clark and I have pretty much divided the labour, in the sense that she is mostly seeing the AI companies and I am mostly seeing the creative industries, but we have a couple of roundtables comi…”

“Unless they are required by law to have transparency about their inputs and their outputs. They have to say what URLs they have searched to come to their conclusion as part of the large language model training and their outputs. In other words, when it comes up with the fact that it has created a picture or a story for…”

“Indeed, economic and moral rights have always been part of the combination that makes for copyright—so your consent and your remuneration. They are two separate things. Of course, copyright has always had a series of different exemptions for all sorts of different purposes. As I say, my biggest anxiety is that if we do…”

“That already requires legislation for the territoriality issue. That is my point. The status quo of just doing nothing is not an option for us. The question is what package of—”

“That is precisely our intention.”

“I presume she considers, therefore, that the EU is already in breach. In the best of all possible worlds, the major economic blocs—the United States of America, ourselves, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and Europe—at least all proceed together in the same direction. That is the best way of proceeding with trying to nav…”

“There is always a danger. I can’t remember who I was talking to last week who said that this feels like the Napster moment. Then we ended up with Spotify. Everybody thought that nobody was going to be remunerated for stolen music at all.”

“You can have an argument about whether Spotify remunerates enough. For that matter, an interesting point, Chair, you referred to creators and the AI companies, but in many different sectors there are lots of intermediaries in the way—the record labels or whoever it may be, or collective licensing and so on—and that pla…”

“As Alastair referred to, it is very impressive that Pinewood has set aside a specific part of Pinewood for independent film.”

“That is a vital one, and I am really delighted that we are having an industrial strategy. That is an important thing for a Government to have, because it determines some of the areas where we see potential for economic growth. Secondly, I am delighted that the creative industries are part of that—one of the eight secto…”

“It was fine.”

“I want Hollywood to prosper as well, and I want it to prosper by making lots of its films in the UK.”

“More than you expected. Can I just do my declaration of interest because I have to do that for the House?”

“Oh, sorry.”