Armed Forces Commissioner Bill: Motion to disagree with Lords Amendment 3

Tuesday, 3 June 2025 · Division No. 208 · Commons

315Ayes
184Noes
Passed

147 MPs did not vote

cross-cuttingGovernment wonPro Armed Forces Welfare(Yes)Pro Government Bill Unamended(Yes)Support Lords Scrutiny(No)Pro Military Oversight(Yes)

Voting Yes means

Support the government's position: reject the Lords amendment and proceed with the Armed Forces Commissioner Bill as the government intended, establishing the commissioner to handle service welfare complaints

Voting No means

Support retaining the Lords amendment, preferring the Lords' modified version of the Bill over the government's original approach

What happened: The House of Commons voted on 3 June 2025 to reject Lords Amendment 3 to the Armed Forces Commissioner Bill, a measure passed by the House of Lords that would have altered the scope or powers of the proposed new Armed Forces Commissioner. The motion to disagree with the Lords passed by 315 votes to 184, meaning the government's preferred version of the Bill was maintained at this stage.

Why it matters: The Armed Forces Commissioner Bill creates a new independent post to oversee the welfare and service conditions of military personnel and their families, replacing the existing Service Complaints Ombudsman. The precise powers and independence of that commissioner are central to how effectively the role can scrutinise the armed forces and advocate for those serving. By rejecting Lords Amendment 3, the Commons kept the commissioner's remit and authority within the boundaries the government had set, rather than the expanded or differently structured version the Lords preferred. A companion vote on the same day also rejected Lords Amendment 2, and the government separately passed an amendment in lieu, suggesting a partial compromise was offered to address Lords concerns without accepting their exact wording.

The politics: The vote divided cleanly along party lines, with all 315 Ayes coming from Labour and Labour and Co-operative MPs, while the 184 Noes were drawn from Conservatives, Liberal Democrats, Reform UK, the DUP, the SNP, the Greens, and Plaid Cymru. There were no notable rebels on either side. The vote is part of a prolonged back-and-forth between the two chambers, known as parliamentary ping-pong, with a further vote recorded in July 2025 showing the disagreement continuing before eventual resolution. The government's simultaneous offer of an amendment in lieu indicates it was seeking to find common ground with the Lords on substance, while declining to accept the Lords' specific drafting.

How They Voted

Government position: Aye

Labour PartyWhipped Aye
285 Aye/0 No
Conservative and Unionist PartyWhipped No
0 Aye/96 No
Liberal DemocratsWhipped No
0 Aye/65 No
Labour and Co-operative PartyWhipped Aye
30 Aye/0 No
Reform UKWhipped No
0 Aye/6 No
Democratic Unionist PartyWhipped No
0 Aye/5 No
Independent
1 Aye/3 No
Scottish National PartyWhipped No
0 Aye/4 No
Green Party of England and WalesWhipped No
0 Aye/4 No
Plaid Cymru
0 Aye/1 No
Traditional Unionist Voice
0 Aye/1 No
Ulster Unionist Party
0 Aye/1 No

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