Speeches by Vaughan.

“That is helpful. I do not know whether PAVA is relevant at your—”

“You will subsequently in a letter?”

“Thank you, Chair. I would like to ask questions about violence and safety. Apologies for being late; my name is Tony Vaughan, the MP for Folkestone and Hythe. For completeness, my interests are as per the register: I am an associate tenant at Doughty Street, and I used to practise in public law. I will start by asking …”

“Can I double-check that your mechanisms mean that when there has been a violent incident that you will then assess whether the correct procedures were followed?”

“Do you have data around the use of the PAVA chemical irritant spray mechanism? Will you be able to provide statistics about how that has been deployed after the guidance changed?”

“I will move on, because of the time, to Rachel Ashurst. What are your comments generally about the extent that violence has increased or reduced at your institution in the last year or so? Can you provide all the data subsequently if you cannot do it now?”

“Compliance with the MMPR protocol?”

“You said the rates are low and I think you gave two incidents in the last year or so. Is that—”

“—to quite a difficult situation with the urgent notification from the Chief Inspector highlighting safeguarding systems in disarray, with failures to report serious matters. Obviously, there is a very serious situation there. What are the most important things that you have done to address some of the systemic problems…”

“Thank you. Phil Wragg, obviously you have come in I think in December—”

“There was a point raised in the Ofsted report about keeping investigations in house rather than externally referring them. Is that something that has changed in terms of the process?”

“Is there a protocol to ensure that training is implemented in the real world? It seems you have done a good job in getting people to know what they should know; is there any process to ensure that when there are violent incidents that they are essentially audited against what should have happened?”

“Previously was there not the body worn camera safeguard?”

“Did they have this process whereby you would look at the footage together afterwards?”

“You say you do not know what happened before, but do you feel those sorts of conversations have improved staff ability to know where the right turn or the wrong turn could have been reached during an incident?”

“Thank you, and would you also include the use of the PAVA restraint if you have used it.”

“Okay, thank you.”

“Pausing there. Do you then discuss the incident with the officers who were involved in that actual incident, and then—”

“Do you have a figure on the degree to which the incidence of violence has reduced in the last year, for example?”

“In relation to staff who have complaints against them, one of the things they flagged was that you would have staff who had serious allegations made about them and they were still continuing to work. What is the process there?”