Speeches by Hoare.

“You are the chief executive of Healthcare Inspectorate Wales. Surely you should know whether they have to be registered or not.”

“We have just conveniently lost you, Mr Jones; your sound disappeared just when we were getting to the punchline.”

“So to be clear, you are not aware of third sector organisations providing clinical services that would be in breach of the Act because they were not registered?”

“Okay. You have added that caveat. Let me remind you of the questions I have asked you. Are you aware, or were you aware, of third sector organisations providing clinical services in breach of the Act, irrespective of its outdatedness or complexity? The Act is the Act, unless it is reviewed or revoked. Were you aware of…”

“With respect, Mr Jones, I did not ask whether the Act was complex or otherwise. All Acts of Parliament are, broadly, complex.”

“Notwithstanding your heavy head cold, chief executive, this one is directed at you. We have been informed of alleged instances of third sector organisations providing clinical services in breach of the Care Standards Act 2000, due to a failure to register with Healthcare Inspectorate Wales. Are you aware of these conce…”

“I am not questioning that.”

“It sounds as if it is quite hard, notwithstanding possibly the best personal relationships on a professional level, to try to identify what is best, what good looks like, what cost-efficient looks like and what efficient looks like, as it is done board by board. Is that fair? It is not a criticism, but it is a reflecti…”

“Okay. We will look forward to receiving some sort of written submission on that. Thank you.”

“The Committee has been told in written evidence that prison healthcare in Wales is “very disjointed”. I am tempted to say, not as a criticism, that your answers have understandably indicated that to be a true statement. Do you share the assessment that it is disjointed, and would you support bringing all prison healthc…”

“Do you think that is a data gap that might be worth filling?”

“So those figures exist, but you do not have them to hand, which is perfectly fine—or is it that those figures do not exist?”

“I suppose Ms Thomas, and perhaps Rhys Jones may have a word or two on that.”

“None of us will have been surprised to hear from Ms Thomas about the issues of mental health and substance abuse and dependency. Those stark statistics stand out when comparing the non-prison and prison populations. Can we drill into those issues a little? It may well be that you need to provide an answer in writing. H…”

“It is not remunerated, but I am the patron of the friends of my local prison in North Dorset.”

“I share the hon. Gentleman’s view on European co-operation. Does he agree that it would be more than helpful—particularly in the face of Russian aggression, and of the American retraction from European defence that he mentions—if the French Government took another look at how the United Kingdom could be involved in a s…”

“Is there a commonality view on the panel? I rather detect that there is. It would be useful—picking up on Mr McVey’s point—to capture the fact that it is hard to see how one could meaningfully cover those constituencies of interest with a cap of seven.”

“I have no further questions.”

“At the back of my question is this: I have always hoped, but have yet to be persuaded, that in the general political commentary, media assessment and general societal discourse, veterans will de facto be seen as also having the potential to be a victim and a survivor. They have often been siloed and trammelled as two m…”

“Anybody who ever dips a toe into Northern Irish affairs knows that precision of language is crucial. Mr Johnstone, you have been very clear that you are keen that the veteran community be seen as being protected by that umbrella of victims and survivors. If I heard you correctly, I think you said that in answer to Mr R…”