Speeches by Hamilton.

“So you don’t think we’ve got to the end. What about you, Liz?”

“Brilliant. Over to you, Oonagh.”

“I am going to stop you there and go back to you, Nilani. You were the only one to talk about enforcement. Why have you highlighted that?”

“Right; I like that. Over to you, Beth.”

“I realise I have got another minute or so. This is a personal thing that I am passionate about: at Christmas, for the first time ever, I saw the retailers seem to come together. Most retailers were selling the fruit and vegetables that you would have on your Christmas table for 5p. Some went up a little bit further, bu…”

“So you think we’ve got as far as we can with people doing things voluntarily.”

“Thank you for being honest.”

“We talked about voluntary measures. Do you think we are at the end of what we can do with them—yes or no? Is there more we can do?”

“That is a fantastic place to stop, and I will hand back to the Chair. [Interruption.] Did I miss anybody? I apologise, Oonagh—I’ll ask you.”

“You said you are doing further inquiries into the cases you got on the families. Did I mishear?”

“I am only going by your words. That is what I was told.”

“Moving you on quickly, how have you started to do that?”

“From what they told you they wanted to go forward with, what have you actually done?”

“Good afternoon. My questions relate to the response to the maternity review. To start, failures in maternity services across the piece over many years meant that many trusts got into problems, and so the Donna Ockenden independent review was carried out. Last year, I think in June, you at the GMC gave an apology. You s…”

“So you have opened more inquiries.”

“It will complete this summer.”

“My time is up. You have spoken to me for the last eight to ten minutes, and I have asked you about what you have done practically to ensure that, if doctors are not performing, we do not keep talking about it, but we do change the system or the structure—whatever you want to call it—to ensure that those doctors are not…”

“Has anything changed in your structure since last June? If it has happened before, can it not happen again?”

“You can’t change the structures in your organisation?”

“I am not an expert on this. Forgive me if I have misunderstood, but you made an absolute apology and you, from the GMC, said that you were going to look at lessons learnt. From the lessons learnt I thought that some of the structure—some of the way you did things—would change. What I am getting is that you are looking …”