Speeches by Fenton-Glynn.

“If I keep talking, the Chair will have me.”

“I am going to move on from that very quickly. The vaccine strategy sets out an ambition to train and deploy a wider set of professionals to deliver vaccines. I would guess that also includes people such as health visitors, and so forth. What do we need to deliver that ambition?”

“So more money to pharmacists?”

“I quickly want to pick up on something Greg said in the last set of questions before I go on to my substantial questions. You said that the broader rollout would not be appropriate in peacetime, and I understand that. In my authority we used a large car park, and having people getting vaccinated and tested in a car par…”

“I would say that the Venn diagram of church attenders and people who should be taking their flu vaccine is probably quite a closed circle, so there are a lot of those kinds of things. I can see you want to get in, Fin, but I have questions in another area, so I was just following up. I am really sorry. UKHSA recommende…”

“Can I interrupt you quickly? So when someone comes to get something else, you say, “Have you booked your vaccines yet?” Or do you just have a sign saying, “We offer the flu jab”?”

“This Tuesday would have been my brother Alex’s 54th birthday, but sadly we lost him to cancer last year. That is why I am really proud that this plan will revolutionise treatment, care and research into cancer, as well as focusing on rare cancers, such as the one that killed my brother. Although I pay tribute to the do…”

“I have taken the mickey with my time, so I will hand back to the Chair.”

“In some ways, the advantage that the NHS has over so many health systems is access to a wide variety of patients. We see that with some of the stuff that is in the cancer plan today. At the moment, as things stand, I am not sure that people feel fully confident that pilots will always have access to those patients. How…”

“One of my previous roles was at the GMC, looking at medical education. There is often a vast difference between trusts. Trusts in urban areas that were better funded and often in better-heeled areas would be more likely to be centres of innovation. Is it the case that we spend a lot of time innovating on the already he…”

“Can you define the key outcomes? There are patient outcomes such as a healthy or comfortable life. What are the other outcomes that you are looking at?”

“Moving to local variation, Kathy McLean, one of the stated aims of the Government is to use the NHS as an engine for growth. Part of that is about successful pilots and so forth. What efforts are ICBs making to be better recipients of that innovation?”

“It is interesting that you mentioned the covid vaccine, because that was not done as a pilot. One of the reasons that worked really well there was that there was a clear need and then they rolled it out. I was a council cabinet member for social care at the time, so I saw that roll-out at first hand. It seemed to me ve…”

“What is your reaction to the experience of people such as Dr Kilcoyne in the first panel, who said that they do not have the tools and support to better scale up their project?”

“The problem then is that you are not doing anything radically different, because you are just improving processes in places. If the model is not working, mental health being a good example, then you are not changing things.”

“Just thinking of an example that we have seen, Layla referred to community mental health. It was a three-year pilot. As far as I can tell, it probably took them most of the first year to get up to speed. They have maybe a year of operating. They are then winding down and evaluating for the third year. It does not feel …”

“I am going to carry on with this theme. We regularly have the Secretary of State here. He loves the phrase, “In the NHS, we learn from the best and roll it out to the rest,” because he likes a rhyming couplet. I am not sure that it is true, though. Do we get the right balance between funding pilots and funding adoption…”

“So you think implementation is part of a pilot. A pilot scheme has an implementation plan attached. I mean broader roll-out.”

“The Reform policy really is quite something, as I am sure my hon. Friend would agree. In fact, if someone lost their child benefit because of the Reform policy, it would take 345 pints a week to make a saving. So it does not really help anyone, but it does hurt those in the most poverty. Will my hon. Friend recommend t…”

“One of the most distressing things that I discovered when I was working at Church Action on Poverty and talking to parents of children in poverty was how often mothers went without food. My hon. Friend has talked about families struggling so that their children did not find out. Does she agree that that is what we are …”