Speeches by Murray.

“With respect, Alex, the 10-year health plan sets out the broad target. If you are talking about a specific target, I think it is right to have the specific levers that we would use to get there clearly laid out. Work has happened around—as I mentioned—nutrient profile modelling and the bans on advertising certain foods…”

“Very quickly, I don’t think it is fair to say that the Department has not given it a second thought since, because I think that if you look at everything it has been doing around nutrient profile modelling and pushing for bans on advertising, all those are really important steps forward. I think that it is not credible…”

“As I and Sam said, a lot of modelling goes on at the Department for Health of the various scenarios over the coming years. The pilots, which we have announced, are an important part of contributing towards the evidence base—”

“We are clear about what the likely ranges are—”

“The point I was making is that the work is twofold: one part is making sure we have more mental health provision, so that people on waiting lists can get seen, but it is also about saying to some young people that going on the CAMHS waiting list may not be the right thing for them.”

“For me, that work with the DWP and with Alan Milburn and the work that he has been doing is absolutely critical, not just for NEETs and making sure we help young people into work, but to help young people with the rise of mental ill health among them at the moment and the broader pressure on mental health services acro…”

“I will write back to you on that one as well.”

“The Department will model different scenarios for what happens with the finances—”

“The Department routinely models finance over the spending period—”

“Having the right investment is obviously important, but it is not just about that. Some of the work that I am doing with the DFE is about working out how we can boost vaccination rates in schools. That is more about political leadership, co-ordination across the system and getting messages out to schools before the beg…”

“I was just gently suggesting that if we are talking about the costs and benefits, it is worth putting down a marker for the benefits.”

“There won’t be any projects that do not go ahead. The projects will stay on the list and in the programme; that is not going to be affected. One of the trade-offs is that our ability to bring forward other programmes might be more limited in the future.”

“Because the capital programme for the NHS is a large capital programme, £15 billion, there is flexibility within those budgets, so we will be able to make the contribution to national security, which I think it is absolutely right for us to do, while being able to guarantee, as well as what I have said about frontline …”

“I am not going to get into decisions taken in the past around that. I think where we are now is that there is a strong recognition of the importance of urgency here. As I said, one of the first questions I raised when Minister Kinnock and I were catching up on my first few days in the Department was, “What can we do to…”

“No, because doing as the previous Government did, raiding capital budgets to pay for revenue pressures, led to chronic under-investment. This is about making a critical contribution to the defence of our country. I hope no one would disagree with the importance of doing that. It is not about using money in the capital …”

“The part of this conversation that has been missing so far is about the huge benefits that innovative medicines can bring.”

“Let me take that away. I am not going to commit to what we are going to do now. But let me take that away as a suggestion that you have put to me. I would not dismiss the commercial implications of having figures in the public domain, but, as I said, within the boundaries of what is appropriate I am keen to make sure w…”

“Yes.”

“That is interesting phrasing, Josh. Thank you for the question. We all know that the provision of social care—particularly adult social care—has not been addressed by many politicians over many years. The Casey commission is at the moment trying to get cross-party consensus on a way forward for the long term—a long-ter…”

“It should be published shortly, I say in Government speak. I know that is an irritating answer.”