Speeches by Hinds.

“Thank you. I think we have broadly covered conservation officers.”

“A final question from me, and this might also be a question for Alice. Is there a revenue opportunity, given the move, particularly post-covid, to experiential—I do not know what the phrase is, but to people wanting to have that practical thing? There is a facility near me called Butser Ancient Farm, which is brilliant…”

“Why would it not be Hilary, as the National Trust? Why would you not lead in the sector? I was at a commercial radio operation the other day—Bauer is a media group that runs the Bauer Media Academy. I think there is the Global Media Academy as well. They don’t only train their own people; there is a recognition that th…”

“Is that not what you—you are the employer.”

“I am not sure I quite follow. You said that there was an abundance or an overabundance of people wanting to do the jobs, but it was hard to get in there.”

“We are going to talk about people and skills—Hilary, you were very keen to talk about this earlier. Maybe we start with Ben and Hilary. Could you outline the biggest or most pressing skills gaps facing the sector? Could you try to distinguish things that are specific to the heritage sector, as opposed to overall constr…”

“Except leading members of that sector say something different, which is that because in construction you have subcontractors to subcontractors and people working on self-employment contracts, you cannot do that in necessarily the same way, but you can with smaller organisations, where needed, collaborating with each ot…”

“That is a subject to which we will return, I believe with our second panel.”

“Thank you; your views have been put very clearly. My final question is unrelated to that. Camilla, you work with Historic Royal Palaces, and you are in one right now. Do you have any advice for Parliaments, from your breadth of experience?”

“No, that’s all right. I want to ask about payments for listed building consents. In written evidence, we have had a variety of views on this topic. There is an argument that if you charge for listed building consents and they are at economic full recovery level, you could, in return, expect to have more conservation of…”

“Thank you. I think we have broadly covered conservation officers.”

“I have to confess, I am not sure I have quite understood.”

“What are the principal differences between this Government’s groundbreaking plan to introduce mental health support teams to schools and the previous Government’s already in-progress programme to deliver mental health support teams to schools? As I like this Minister, Mr Speaker, let me give him a hint: this has been a…”

“I will be brief as many colleagues are waiting to contribute. I will speak only to new clause 40, which calls for a review of the standard method of assessing local housing need. A couple of colleagues have already mentioned aspects of it, but I will talk about it for three reasons: it puts too many housing development…”

“You know it when you see it.”

“I know that we are short of time, but can we talk briefly about schools and collaboration with clubs? I think we should probably say at the outset that the work of a number of sports and national governing bodies has been fantastic over the years. Some of the programmes that exist are incredibly well attended and very …”

“Thank you, although that does sound a bit like “If you build it, they will come.” Huw?”

“Brilliant. I will turn to Peter, but this is potentially a question for all three of you: if there is a move back towards the old schools-sports partnerships approach, does that have to be on top of the provision for the PE and school sport premium, or do you believe that it can replace part of the PE and school sport …”

“Schools sometimes complain that they are asked too much about how they use PE and the school sport premium. What is your recommendation for the further measurement of outcomes?”

“Thank you all very much.”