Speeches by Hinds.

“Even in central London which is where—”

“Baroness Twycross, can I encourage you just to be explicit? The stated purpose of the previous scheme, the listed places of worship grant, was expressly about heritage conservation and historic buildings. The letter I have from you with your signature on talks about maintaining “The fabric of our nation’s most historic…”

“Meaning? You can define “needed most” in lots of ways. What is meant in this context?”

“I am not passing any judgment on whether it is a good thing or a bad thing; I am just trying to understand. It means you would lead on the criteria. This fund is a lot smaller than the old fund. You said the main difference was something else, but the main difference is that it is smaller than the fund that was. You ar…”

“But before not that. You are not comparing it to last year but to the scheme as was.”

“But in evaluating individual projects, you do not know the answer to that question. Project managers can answer that question after the event. Would you have done this anyway? They are not going to say in the application, “We will do this anyway.” You will be applying criteria such as the demographics of the postcode r…”

“Which happens to be hotel accommodation. Fazima, from the point of view of the wider heritage asset register, is there any particular move to use it as a way to develop tourism and travel?”

“May I ask about skills? You talked earlier about planning for the skills pipeline. Obviously, the Government are making a lot of changes to the Apprenticeship Levy, the Growth and Skills Levy, and are going to reduce the minimum length and content of apprenticeships and remove the independent body that oversees apprent…”

“That is possible already.”

“Did you mention to Baroness Smith any worries about the removal of public funding for level 7 apprenticeships for people aged 22 or above, like heritage consultants, conservation architects, or the archaeology specialist masters?”

“I know what has happened. I know we are still expecting Petty France to go, but there is still a lot of very high value prime real estate owned by HMG that could be a hotel. Obviously, you want to get the best value for sale subject to The Green Book but is there any drive specifically to develop our capacity and capab…”

“How would it do that?”

“How would you anticipate Skills England having a role in making people aware of the opportunities?”

“Which table is that? You said, “A voice at the table.””

“I was trying to get at something a bit lower level. Trying to put in front of young people the range of opportunities is a long-term issue. I thought you were saying that Skills England could play a role in making young people more aware of these varied routes, but you went on to talk about a sector table which is poss…”

“Moving back to outbound—this may be quite difficult to quantify and I am sure it will vary for different sectors and, of course, every act is different—but we talk about the EU sometimes as if everybody is going to be visiting 27 different countries on their tour whereas some just go to Germany. The question is: how di…”

“That was my question.”

“You mentioned Dublin. How does the common travel area play into all this?”

“The common travel area is with the island of Ireland. For many different purposes such as trade, the movement of people, and various health and social aspects—lots of different ways—there are exceptions to many rules for the Republic of Ireland. I just wondered, for your band that is choosing Dublin, if it is easier to…”

“That was my question.”