Speeches by Malthouse.

“By all means. I know he is a busy man, and I do not mean to be critical.”

“I beg to move amendment 1, page 1, line 9, at end insert— “(2BA) But a judge may determine that an order does not continue to have effect for a person “P” during the appeal period if, on granting leave to appeal at any stage, they are satisfied that— (a) “P” faces a real and substantial threat of serious harm as a resu…”

“What about your software, or middleware, maintenance? Where is it maintained from? Presumably someone in California can use remote access to fiddle around with the software.”

“There is no Oracle involvement in the process at all?”

“What platform is used to hold the data? What is the database platform? Is it Oracle?”

“I want to ask a couple of questions about the architecture. You say that the NHS data is sitting in an Amazon web server in the UK.”

“I only suggest the CQC because it looks at health outcomes as well as quality, and that is intrinsically related to the adoption of technology.”

“So I can look at my local hospital and say, “You’re great,” or, “You’re a load of rubbish.””

“Do you think it would be sensible for routine CQC inspections to rate or comment on how far advanced each institution is in its adoption of new technology and techniques? Would that be possible? “Alder Hey, you get a 10 out of 10, but I’m afraid Broadgreen just up the road—d’you know what? You’re about a 6.””

“That is also building a network of individuals.”

“My guess is that the adoption of innovation in the NHS is not dissimilar to the adoption in the police or local authorities, which is that, in each discrete organisation, if there is one motivated individual they will generally pull the technology into their organisation, and as a result you get a patchwork of adoption…”

“Okay. Good luck.”

“But it is not clear what is going to happen at head office yet.”

“The academic health science network with them at the heart of it is going to continue.”

“Is it clear yet whether the health innovation network will survive?”

“Okay.”

“Sorry, the decision was made to get rid of NHS England without there being a plan for what would replace some of the critical functions like yours. Are you just working on that plan now?”

“You guys are one of the enablers of technology in the NHS. What is going to happen when you are swept away?”

“That sounds like a yes. My second question is allied to that. Obviously, Palantir has reputational difficulty. Everybody is slightly suspicious about what you do. Part of that reputational difficulty has been caused by your software being used in the war on Gaza and the targeting of Palestinians with particular charact…”

“Forgive me, but that was not really the question I asked. I asked you a practical question. If I have a large pool of data about a set of individuals and, in a defensive or offensive capability, I wish to target particular individuals with particular characteristics, your AI would allow me to do that.”