Speeches by Phillips.

“Say it again, sorry. I am genuinely going deaf.”

“Obviously the Ministry of Justice leads on it, and the problem-solving courts and their successes have been monitored and seen, I would say, and some problem-solving criminal courts as well; there is one in Birmingham and it is brilliant. Obviously, again, you would not expect us to have a violence against women and gi…”

“The family court is part of the DAPO—Domestic Abuse Protection Order—pilot that is currently running; that is why I say we do it in concert with the Ministry of Justice. Obviously, the Home Office manages it from a policing perspective and the Ministry of Justice manages the application of those orders within the famil…”

“As you heard from those who are funded by the Home Office earlier, there is the general monitoring of both outputs and outcomes with any funding grant that is given down to any institution, but there also needs to be broader learning. If I were to be perfectly honest with you, there is not huge amounts of evidence that…”

“Yes. The Domestic Abuse Protection Orders is a really good example where, alongside the rollout of the pilot, we are funding a specific evaluation of how well that has gone. What I suppose I am coming on to say is we need to fund more research actually because there is not a huge amount. Gisela, do you want to say some…”

“You cannot do a randomised trial on support, can you? Because I am not going to say, “You can’t have support so I can test if you die.” It is a tricky one on the support front.”

“Yes. Regarding the prevention models around perpetrators, as Gisela says, there has been a piece of research into specifically the Drive model, which is high risk and high harm. Some other people this morning were talking about the standard and medium-risk—I will not say low—perpetrators. Obviously, risk is dynamic. Ag…”

“I absolutely understand it because I did it for 10 years and it is fundamentally irritating. Actually, having money from the Ministry of Justice, the Home Office and different metrics, I wish I could sit here and say that there is one single metric but different pots of funding are for different things. If I were to as…”

“If Health is saying to me that it is going to be funding let us say IRIS—which is a system around domestic abuse counselling in GP surgeries—I have to make sure from a strategic perspective that that is working in concert with something else we are doing. Actually, it is not that I am the better person to go out and fu…”

“Yes, but that is the point of the ministerial board: for us all to look at what our Government Departments do and how we should do it in concert with each other for an ultimate goal.”

“It is so hot in here.”

“As you know, it is a devolved issue in Scotland, and the Scottish Government lead their own violence against women and girls strategy, as do the Welsh Government. However, because of the manner in which police forces are different across the board, much of the interactions of the Home Office are England and Wales by th…”

“Yes. DSIT sits on the Violence Against Women and Girls Board, and I have to say, there is really good attendance from its Secretary of State on that. It is an issue he takes very seriously personally, and he and I worked for many years, for example, on changing the family courts together. So yes, we work with DSIT all …”

“I gave a statement to Parliament and published a plan, if you will, of some timelines that are really specifically on the IICSA recommendations. Once again, the Home Office is actually only responsible for four of the 20 IICSA recommendations; they are largely the responsibility of other Government Departments. But the…”

“Me personally meeting with the Secretary of State for Education on IICSA was just before we announced our plans. The meeting was really specifically around a child protection authority, and I took along Alexis Jay to that meeting with me. Janet Daby—the Minister for Children, Families and Wellbeing—is on the Violence A…”

“What you will know is that that is independent of me, and so it would be wrong for me to tell an independent inquiry what and where it has to look at.”

“I also watched half of Louise.”

“Again, far be it from me to tell an independent inquiry where to go. What I will say is that I dislike—as I have for a number of years, and I am sure these places dislike it as well—that the issue of grooming gangs becomes synonymous with basically three or four places that, to be fair to them, have been the places tha…”

“I do not need to wait for an inquiry. Louise tried to express this earlier: if she had only been offered one rather than all 12 recommendations, she would have taken the national police one. That is her clear line from the evidence she gave to yourselves earlier, from what I watched. There is absolutely no reason why a…”

“Yes.”