Speeches by Hinds.

“Of course we should be listening to colleges such as Bournemouth and Poole college. We heard the Government announce earlier that thousands of people were going to go into construction, but then say that they could not do anything until they created this body and subsumed the functions of IfATE into it. I do not see ho…”

“My right hon. Friend makes a very important point, which stands on its own merits.”

“He is not, no; he is saying something different. Of course there is value in all sorts of training. In my working career, I did various stints of training but they were not called an apprenticeship. We do not have to call something an apprenticeship for it to be a worthwhile piece of training. Already, we ask the word …”

“I could not resist the hon. Gentleman.”

“The truth is that there is always a balance about apprenticeships. Of course, there can be abuses: in the past there were abuses of the apprenticeship system with the lower rate that could be paid, although many employers pay the full rate to people of whatever age who are doing apprenticeships. However, it is also tru…”

“Who is “you”? I suppose that is the question: who does it? Who spots that fact that middle-aged men playing football is fine and will always get funded but kids playing some minority sport will not? There may not be an obvious answer—in which case we can say in our report, “There is not an obvious answer, but this prob…”

“I want to come back to an interesting point that we talked about earlier. I think we need to tease it out into a proposal or at least an outline proposal. If you have a 3G astro, that is great and some football clubs can easily afford to pay £50 an hour, but a small community group cannot. The question is what to do ab…”

“HAF is the holiday activities and food fund. We should spell that out for the benefit of everybody here.”

“Can we talk about some of the things that are changing in schools? We have already talked about the opening school facilities fund. It is not the first of its kind; over the years, there have been many attempts to get more schools to open up. There are two other things. One is the wraparound programme, which has been a…”

“Andy, your organisation does some of that. Do you want to unpack that a bit?”

“Who should? How do you make it happen?”

“To working with schools, and sometimes that means using school facilities, but sometimes it means getting the kids out of school to come to the club or doing things before and after school, working in partnership.”

“Can we come back to working with schools? It is probably worth saying—I do not know if you agree—that some of the national governing body programmes are 10 times better than they used to be when I was growing up. It is like night and day. Some work better than others, and I am interested in your thoughts on the success…”

“Are there any particular sports the provision of which has shown to reduce the drop-off in schools?”

“Can we come back to working with schools? It is probably worth saying—I do not know if you agree—that some of the national governing body programmes are 10 times better than they used to be when I was growing up. It is like night and day. Some work better than others, and I am interested in your thoughts on the success…”

“To working with schools, and sometimes that means using school facilities, but sometimes it means getting the kids out of school to come to the club or doing things before and after school, working in partnership.”

“Who should? How do you make it happen?”

“Andy, your organisation does some of that. Do you want to unpack that a bit?”

“I want to come back to an interesting point that we talked about earlier. I think we need to tease it out into a proposal or at least an outline proposal. If you have a 3G astro, that is great and some football clubs can easily afford to pay £50 an hour, but a small community group cannot. The question is what to do ab…”

“Can we talk about some of the things that are changing in schools? We have already talked about the opening school facilities fund. It is not the first of its kind; over the years, there have been many attempts to get more schools to open up. There are two other things. One is the wraparound programme, which has been a…”