Speeches by Murray.

“Thank you for that. If I could come on to another question about the impact of disorder on other policing priorities, the Chair referred earlier to the issue around neighbourhood policing and inexperienced officers being moved around. You referred yourself to the football season coming straight after the summer disorde…”

“Minister, I wanted to just ask a little bit about political engagement with policing in the UK. We heard from the previous panel that public order demand is now the highest the Met has ever faced. During the summer disorder, we had to see the police, the CPS and the Government working swiftly together. My ears picked u…”

“Thank you for that. If I could come on to another question about the impact of disorder on other policing priorities, the Chair referred earlier to the issue around neighbourhood policing and inexperienced officers being moved around. You referred yourself to the football season coming straight after the summer disorde…”

“Thank you, Minister. I have one follow-up on it. That analysis, that reflection of the period of the disorder, does that apply only to public order policing or do you think you will apply those lessons more broadly to the whole gamut of policing? We have talked about trust and public support. One of the issues—you talk…”

“Minister, I wanted to just ask a little bit about political engagement with policing in the UK. We heard from the previous panel that public order demand is now the highest the Met has ever faced. During the summer disorder, we had to see the police, the CPS and the Government working swiftly together. My ears picked u…”

“Thank you, Minister. I have one follow-up on it. That analysis, that reflection of the period of the disorder, does that apply only to public order policing or do you think you will apply those lessons more broadly to the whole gamut of policing? We have talked about trust and public support. One of the issues—you talk…”

“As a new Member, I sadly never knew Sir David Amess, but from what people have said about his dedication to his constituents and his good humour across the House, he is a model for all new Members to follow. At the Home Affairs Committee last week, we heard from the permanent secretary about how Prevent is changing and…”

“How are you judging impact? Impact could be that your recommendations are accepted by the Home Office and it changes policy, or impact could be that the national debate about immigration is affected and you get press coverage and start shaping it, or it could be that the lives of the actual people who are affected by t…”

“Could I ask a little bit about the context in which the ICIBI operates and the wider immigration and border security challenges that the Home Office faces? What would you say are the greatest risks that the Home Office faces right now, first on immigration and secondly on border security?”

“Would you say that the role of the ICIBI is to measure and inspect the operational functionality of the Home Office, or is it also to measure the gap between the political objectives and what we are being told the Home Office will achieve, and the reality on the ground? Another way of putting that question would be to …”

“When you say “to the benefit of end users”, what role do you think the ICIBI has in ensuring that migrants’ rights are properly protected and that the Home Office is treating people appropriately and fairly?”

“For example, if it had not been very clearly articulated by the Home Office at the outset of a new process, you would not think that it was implicit in your job description to consider whether this could turn into another Windrush.”

“That is not what you just said.”

“Imagine you are in the role and you have a year ahead of you and limited resources. The work of the Home Office is vast. The programmes that you have just talked about are huge ones. How would you go about designing a programme of work to maximise the impact of your office?”

“You talk about processes. What process challenges do you think the Home Office currently has? Do you think the Home Office is in the market for improving those processes?”

“My question was not whether there is a recognition. My question is whether there is an appetite. I do not think that the Home Office has struggled to recognise its failures of processes in the past. It just has not been willing to do anything about them. My question for you is whether you also recognise that.”

“Would you say that the Home Office wants transformational change and how would you evidence that?”

“Do you live within commuting distance of the London office?”

“You would be expecting to inspect the UK borders and immigration without being resident in the UK.”

“Are you resident in the UK?”