Speeches by Gardiner.

“I have huge respect for the hon. Lady for the way that she has conducted this debate over the last few weeks. My concern is that she has focused today on the individual and the individual choice, but we are here to legislate for society as a whole. In legislating, what we are saying if we pass the Bill is that it is ok…”

“It is a pleasure to speak under you in the Chair, Mr Efford. My thanks and congratulations go to the right hon. Member for Orkney and Shetland (Mr Carmichael) on securing this debate. I hope that in the coming years, the Government will find time to return the annual fisheries debate to the main Chamber. That was a goo…”

“The hon. Gentleman missed out the United States of America from that list.”

“I agree with the right hon. Gentleman, and I thought that his points on visas were well-made, but it is important that we put safety at the forefront. Paradoxically, the common denominator that runs through every report is that the crew involved had all attended courses and attained the required safety and training cer…”

“I want to clarify something in relation to pollack. My understanding is that the scientific advice given out in June was that the total allowable catch should be set at zero, but it was not set at zero. The quota was set at 925 tonnes; even now, the stocks are much lower this year because the decision was not in line w…”

“Does the Minister actually believe that the discard ban is being observed? If he has doubts about that, would he agree that ensuring there are onboard cameras and monitoring is the best way to put an end to that element of illegal fishing?”

“I am delighted that I sat down to receive my hon. Friend’s intervention because she is entirely right. What she said goes to the remarks made by our hon. Friend the Member for South East Cornwall (Anna Gelderd) who, because of illness, is no longer in her place. She made a point about ensuring that consultations happen…”

“I am sorry if I have given the hon. Gentleman the impression that I think fishing communities would be against this; I do not think that. That is precisely why I welcome the remarks of my hon. Friends the Members for Great Grimsby and Cleethorpes and for South East Cornwall about the importance of consultation. Look at…”

“Before the Minister does that, could he look at what we might learn from the American fish management plans, which are gold standard and have had the clear management objectives that, I am afraid, many of ours lack?”

“I am delighted to agree with the right hon. Gentleman, who chairs the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Committee. It also adds grist to the mill of the five-year approach, but we perhaps need to be careful. It is perfectly reasonable to move to a five-year approach, but it would not necessarily immediately lead to u…”

“I think Hansard will record that the right hon. Gentleman mentioned that himself in his opening remarks. Overfishing means that the stock is driven down even further. There is no cure to a collapsed stock that involves continuing to overfish. The Celtic sea cod stock has declined by 95% since 2012, but last year the to…”

“I am, of course, well aware that it is headline advice and that other things come into play, but as the right hon. Gentleman himself mentioned in his opening remarks, the things that come into play—I think he called them the nuances—are often political—”

“It is to avoid Storm Bert; it is to avoid the flooding that we have just seen. You are right that we do not often see that connection being made when people are asking about whether we should continue with this policy or should we backtrack.”

“I think we have both made the point, yes, thanks very much. Professor Forster, you founded the Priestley Centre for Climate Futures. I know you do not claim to be Nostradamus but your ability to project into the future the impact of climate change is what I want to turn to now. The title of this inquiry is “Delivering …”

“I was merely picking up on what you said in your report.”

“Could I pick up on the electric vehicles? In your July report you highlighted the need to increase electric vehicles sales from 16.5% of new car sales in 2023 to between 80% and 100%, and for vans from 5.9%—reinforcing what you have just said about vans—to between 70% and 100% by 2030. You say that the slowdown in grow…”

“I think you said, “NAP3 lacks the pace and ambition to address growing climate risks, which we are already experiencing in the UK”. You talked about slow progress. It is damning, absolutely damning.”

“That is the correction that needs to be made on page 82, but the key thing here is you say, “The latest consumption emissions data saw a large uptick in part due to increased non-EU imports … Unilateral measures such as the CBAM”—that is the carbon border adjustment mechanism—“will be most effective if paired with assi…”

“Yes, if I can just follow up on that, because in your report you talk about consumption emissions—you actually say it is at figure 1.7, but it is not, it is at figure 1.9—”

“The right tree, in the right place, at the right time.”